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Published Date: 25 September 2008
HEARTS may have attributed the non-payment of employees' wages to a technical hitch, but even if the money is now received as promised on Friday, the episode does not inspire confidence in the club's more grandiose plans for expansion.
The aim of building a new 10,000-seat main stand at Tynecastle was already meeting increasing scepticism some time before the events of the last week, and the inability to pay staff, for whatever reason it occurred, leaves onlookers wondering where the money would come from.

The plan to redevelop the stand has been accepted by many supporters as proof that Vladimir Romanov, Hearts' owner, remains committed to growing the club, and to a virtuous cycle which would see attendances and playing standards increase.

With bigger crowds producing bigger gate receipts, so the theory runs, Hearts would have more money to buy better players, who would bring more success to the team, which would then attract bigger crowds, and so on.

During an economic boom, such a theory might appear highly plausible, but in the present circumstances its attractions are less evident. The cost of the venture has been estimated at £50million, and Ukio Bankas Investment Group (UBIG), Hearts' parent company, are currently committed to finding that money.

But the timetable for the project has already been revised, and for the past six months some senior figures at the City of Edinburgh Council have been casting doubt on its viability.

"We have a number of concerns about the proposed redevelopment of Tynecastle, not least the way the club keeps putting back the timetable for the work," one councillor said.

However, Romanov himself has stated on the club's website that he believes the delays should be laid at the door of the council itself. "It is dragging on, the bureaucratic side of things," he said in late July.

"When you see sporting palaces going up overnight in China and we are talking about one stand, well it's not something I want to talk about at this moment."

The current starting date for construction is the summer of next year, but negotiations have some way to go before work can begin – even if UBIG does raise the massive sum required. Of course, if Hearts were to postpone the project that would not in itself mean Romanov had lost interest in the club. Indeed, to some observers a decision not to commit £50m at the present time would appear to be in the best longer-term interests of the club.

But delaying the building work indefinitely would surely put an end to the so-called Romanov revolution, and to the belief that the Lithuanian business could transform the face of Scottish football.

Without a new stand, Tynecastle would remain as it was when UBIG first bought into the club – and there would be little other sign of positive progress.

Things have taken a modest upturn since the arrival in the summer of Csaba Laszlo. The new manager's enthusiasm for and profound knowledge of football have enthused many members of the playing squad, and inculcated a unity which was conspicuous by its absence for much of last season.

Having won four of their first six matches in the SPL, Hearts are currently third in the league. They appear well placed to finish in the upper half of the 12-team table – something they failed to do last season for the first time since the split was introduced.

But improving on last season should hardly be a cause for prolonged celebration. With the biggest support in the country outwith the Old Firm, Hearts should be at least challenging for third place every year.

Indeed, before the Ukio takeover they finished best of the rest two years running under Craig Levein.

Only in season 2005-06, when they won the Scottish Cup and finished second to get into the qualifying stages of the Champions League, have the newly enriched Hearts fared significantly better on the field of play than their old, impoverished predecessors.

A couple of seasons of instability followed that halcyon spell, but many supporters retained their faith in Romanov, and argued that he would eventually get things right.

Now, critics might suggest that if the banker and his employees take a week to settle unpaid wages, previous promises of massive investment sound less and less convincing.

Q & A

Q: Does Hearts' statement yesterday that "payment to staff and players has now been processed as planned" mean that the wages have been paid?

A: No. Employees still have to wait until tomorrow for the outstanding salaries to appear in their bank accounts.

Q: What does "processed" mean then?

A: It means that the transaction is on-going and should be completed in time to meet the Friday deadline set by the club in Tuesday's statement. Effectively, nothing has changed since the timetable was announced on Tuesday.

Q: What is the 'technicality' that caused the failure to pay wages in the first place?

A: This is the key question, but so far Hearts have given no indication of what is really behind the problem.

Q: Didn't the club say at the weekend that the wages would be paid "early next week"?

A: Yes, that was stated but the intention could not be followed through.

Q: Has the club run out of money?

A: There is no evidence of a chronic lack of funds; the club insists that the failure to pay wages is a temporary cash flow problem rather than anything more sinister.

Q: Are the wages paid to employees by Vladimir Romanov's bank, Ukio Bankas?

A: No, they are paid by the Bank of Scotland every week after sufficient funds are transferred from Lithuania.

Q: What is the health of Ukio Bankas in the current economic climate of a global downturn?

A: Its rating has been downgraded from "stable" to "negative" recently, but its trading position remains positive.

Q: What is Romanov's view on the situation?

A: That is anyone's guess. Neither Romanov nor his son Roman, the club chairman, have commented on the matter, leaving director Sergejus Fedotovas to travel to Scotland this week to sort out the mess.

Q: After the club's promise to resolve the situation this week, what will happen if the wages are not paid by tomorrow?

A: There may be trouble ahead.



The full article contains 1062 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 25/09/2008 00:27:14
Stuey must have knocked this one because he had to meet someone in the pub.
The bloggers have been doing a far better job unraveling Mad Vlad's house of cards (sorry for the mixed metaphor) than the Scotsman's thirsty jounros.
Zero research about Ukio Bankas plight back home or the Vald's apparently free-falling aluminum plant (courtesy of Chips)
Another hard day at the office., eh boys.
2

PJ07,

25/09/2008 00:55:24
Hobo halfwits.
Just like the total lie about the players going on strike.
How about Hibs going into administration with their £14million mortgage but no income?
3

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 25/09/2008 01:12:27
Here's the brilliant piece of Google-search by Chips that Bathgate was either too lazy to go after or deliberately chose to ignore. Might help put things in perspective.

John McCain's Frozen Chips,
Glasgow 24/09/2008 23:06:28
Balkan Investment Fund (managed by UBIG-owned Balkan Investment Bank) has seen its value halved in a month.
There has been a frantic amount of trading in it over the past two days on the Banja Luka Stock Exchange (as with Ukio in Lithuania), but still the price is heading south.
As for the Birac aluminum plant at Zvornik, which UBIG also owns in Republica Srpska, Bosnia-Herzegovina, its share price is heading towards zero.
Every penny UBIG and Ukio have is going towards propping up its share prices.
The companies are fighting for their lives.
The players at Hearts are a low priority. The staff are no priority.
Them's the facts.

Kinda makes his claim that the Mad Vlad's bank's "trading position remains positive" a little silly.
Don't it?
4

Neil Waugh,

Old Stathcona 25/09/2008 01:29:28
#15

Err...Thanx Bring.
5

Andanotherthing,

25/09/2008 01:51:07
There must be something wrong when, talk is loose but money is tight.
6

JamboG,

Florida 25/09/2008 01:56:16
Instead of reprinting the same story over and over again why cant some of these "journalists" do some proper investigations and find out what really happened? Is this something to do with the mess that HBOS are in? Is it Ukio Bankas? (5 minutes research on the internet doesnt suggest they are doing worse than any other company on any other stock exchange currently). Is there really a cash flow problem at Tynie? Has anyone ever transferred money from one country to another - believe me, it takes days, so Hearts saying start of the week to settle this was unrealistic.

If it happens again, panic, but for now, this is not a big drama. I hope...

I despair of this newspaper...
7

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 01:57:25
thepundit and bto - I can't understand how you can laugh and joke and make light of Hearts' plight. You sound like Harry Enfield's loadsa money character of the Thatcher years, gloating at the poor people off whose backs you have made your fortune.

I am a Celtic fan but find the situation at Tynecastle extremely worrying from a Scottish Football point of view. You as Gers fans should also be careful what you wish for. Murray's business empire is not as it was and a couple of years down the line, if things turn out a certain way, it could be Rangers struggling to pay the tea lady.

I and many other non-Hearts people have been warning the Jambos about Romanov for some time and were generally laughed at by the Tynecastle fans. I for one take no pleasure in saying "I told you so".

In fact, in this particular instance, I have some sympathy for Romanov, because he and Hearts are victims of the current financial crisis, just as the financial giant that was HBOS has been.

Hearts are a major institution in Scotland and are very much a large part of Scottish Football. I do not think it is a laughing matter for fans of other clubs to see them potentially in dire financial trouble.

Here's hoping the wages are in place tomorrow and by Saturday we are back discussiong football matches once again.
8

Andanotherthing,

25/09/2008 02:00:46
#24
Some peoples way of joking is to tell he truth.
9

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:04:26
And another thing - The Daily Record is an absolute disgrace after its banner headlines yesterday about Hearts players threatening to go on strike if their wages are not in the bank tomorrow.

Of course if the players are not paid tomorrow, the proverbial sh!t will surely hit the fan, but there has been no talk among the players of industrial action at this early stage, and why would there be until after Friday?

I read the story under the headline and there were no quotes whatsoever. It was all "it is understood that . . " and "it could be that . . ." which means "we are making all this up".

But after the inventing of quotes from the chairman of an Italian club regarding the transfer of Nakamura back to Serie A, nothing would surprise me about that putrid rag.
10

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:06:08
#26 - Yes bto, it IS serious.
11

Andanotherthing,

25/09/2008 02:08:28
#28
Well said.
12

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:17:17
thepundit - there were 2 or 3 Celtic supporters flashing banknotes at the Gretna players that day and yes, it was disgusting and a large number of Celtic fans told them so at the time and on Celtic websites afterwards.

As for the Record, I can't prove they did not have a Tynecastle insider leading the story, but I know enough about the Scottish media to know that they were jumping on a sensationalist bandwagon to make money selling papers on a lie.

Especially with the "it is understood . . ." and "it could be . . ." giveaways. And if what you suggest is true, why didn't they say "a Hearts insider said . . ."? They don't even have to name the insider.

And anyway, why are you always sticking up for The Record? Never mind. I already know the answer to that one.
13

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 25/09/2008 02:22:17
Here's the Berra "statment that Mad Vlad's Tyncastle spin doctors put out.
Sounds like the players HAVEN'T been paid yet. And someone wants to conduct a witch hunt for the Record source using Berra's name.
The plot thickens.


Berra: No strike threat
24.09.2008

Hearts captain Christophe Berra today dismissed laughable reports from a Glasgow-based newspaper that the Tynecastle squad is considering strike action following the news that their wages are to be delayed until this Friday.

The Gorgie outfit revealed yesterday afternoon that the players will receive a double salary this week after a technical problem prevented payment as usual last Friday.
The skipper contacted Hearts News this morning in order to offer direct assurances to supporters that there have been no such discussions about not playing this weekend in the dressing room.

"I don't know where the story came from but nothing has been said by the players. We are total professionals, we train hard and we want to win every Saturday.

"We know that if we are successful as a team that can only be good for us as individuals in our career.

"We are often in the spotlight because we are Hearts, and like so many reports these are just not true.

"I don't know where the stories came from, but I tell you I'd love the paper to name their source as there are no quotes in the story.

"I can promise our supporters that we are totally committed to Hearts and this weekend's game."
14

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:27:42
#34 - Thanks for that Neil Waugh.

Maybe the source was thepundit.

15

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:30:14
#35 - Coming from someone who makes comments like "Rangers will win the league - FACT" that really does take the biscuit.

Why are you so upset that I called the Record an "absolute disgrace"?
16

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:32:41
thepundit - For someone with your obviously very limited intellect, I am not surprised that you worship the Record. Why don't you stretch your mental capacity somewhat by stepping up to the Beano and the Dandy now and again?
17

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:47:25
thepundit - The Record does NOT get exclusives from Celtic, so count us out of that one.

There is only one journalist who gets info direct from Gordon Strachan and that is Ronnie Cully of the Evening Times.

Celtic's policy is to put all club news into the Celtic View from which the journos then lift the stories and interviews.
18

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:55:34
thepundit - So what about the Record's "exclusive" about Nakamura being sold to an Italian club in the summer? They actually quoted the club chairman as saying the he has in front of him a fax from Celtic accepting their offer for the player.

Celtic denied it. Nakamura denied it, as did Nakamura's agent.

The next day, the chairman came out and said he had not been in touch with Celtic. He was NOT interested in Nakamura. He knew nothing about a fax and, more worryingly for the Record, he said he made none of the comments attributed to him and indeed, he had never spoken to anyone from the Scottish media.

I know you will probably come back and say that Celtic, Nakamura, his agent and the Italian club chairman were all lying because that paragon of virtue - The Daily Record - would never invent a story, never mind quotes, but I am going to challenge you anyway - try and defend the Record on that one if you can.
19

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 02:59:36
#46 - Ok thepundit, give me an example of a Celtic exclusive by The Record, and ones that turned out to be false do not count.
20

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:03:17
bto - I criticise the Record every day? A bit of exaggeration wouldn't you say? I only criticise them when they print what I consider to be blatant lies, as with the Hearts story yesterday.

I understand why Gers fans would support it after the farce at the end of last season, but you'll forgive us if the rest of us do not toe the Murray line.
21

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:08:29
#50 - Absolute rubbish. Where is your proof?

Naka has stated he wants to return to Japan. Celtic are currently in talks trying to persuade him to stay another year, or at least to stay till the end of the season. So why would they have tried to punt him in the summer, especially when he told the club his intentions at the end of last season, so Celtic could have cashed in rather than let him go for nothing next summer?

You really are an idiot if that is your pathetic attempt to defend that story. Your opinions and comments are the stuff of nonsense. You have become something of a joke figure on these boards.

A complete moron.
22

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:13:02
#53 - Celtic FC and The Celtic View does not and never has reported on transfer deals until they are signed and sealed.

The Record first reported Celtic's interest in Maloney 6 months after he left. Then 6 months after that, then 6 months after that. They got it right at the third time of asking, but it wasn't an exclusive. It was pure speculation that EVENTUALLY came true.
23

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:14:58
#56 - No, because of the absurd things you say.

Still waiting for your proof that Celtic tried to sell Naka.

Do you have proof, or is what you said about the Italian chairman and Celtic lying just your opinion?
24

Aitchie,

Craig Gordon Stand 25/09/2008 03:18:41
#56 It is understood by the Daily Record that some people believe you are a moron whether you agree with #55 or not.
25

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:18:43
57 Tam

Where their not some stories that Tamas was to sign for the tic and was that story also carried in the Celtic View?

I could be wrong, but I thought a tic mate of mine mentioned it during the close season.
26

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:21:19
thepundit - I remember you on here a while back claiming that Celtic didn't issue season ticket cards. Can't remember who, but the guy took you to the cleaners and you made a complete idiot of yourself over a few days and they were queuing up laughing and having a pop at you.

And all because you got something wrong and when proved wrong, you denied that you said it, despite the other guy reposting your comments where you said it.

A big man would have held his hands up and admit he was wrong and everyone would move on, but not you. It went on for days and you came out of it smelling of shoite.

That is why you are a joke figure on her.

Go figure.
27

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:27:21
#60 BTO - Someone once said that up in space, there was a little pink teapot orbiting the earth. I didn't believe him, but I could not prove he was wrong.

#62 Daillyman - I can categorally confirm that the Celtic View never once mention the name Tamas. As I said, they don't comment until it is signed and sealed.
28

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:28:15
Anyway good to hear that HMFC staff and players will be up to date on wages today.

The SPL cannot afford to lose clubs with the stature and support of the jamtarts, we all want a strong and competitive league.
29

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:29:12
67

I stand corrected.

It must have been the Record.
30

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:29:14
I know, it should've been 'categorically'.
31

Listeria,

Russia, 25/09/2008 03:30:14
Unfortunately Hearts may not be the only football victims of the Credit Crunch. A contact of mine was saying that advance orders for replica kit and the other assorted tat beloved of team shops of teams in the EPL may be down at least 35% this season. Further the transfer hangover (transfers agreed but with a large chunk of the cash following later) has doubled this time around.
32

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:31:46
73

Thought about changing you're name?
33

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:33:06
The Daily Record openly slated Celtic for lack of ambition and "short-changing the fans" for not attempting to sign Craig Bellamy on a permanent deal after his loan spell.

This story came out in the middle of secret talks during which Celtic had offered Bellamy the biggest deal in the club's history.
34

Listeria,

Russia 25/09/2008 03:34:02
75,

No have only ever used this one, its a poisonous little virus, just about sums me up.
35

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:35:38
#72 BTO - Wrong. I said the chairman of the Italian club claimed not to have made the comments attributed to him in the Record. Pundit claimed they were all lying apart from the record.

thepundit is making the accusation here, so the burden of proof is his.
36

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:36:57
#79 - It was a secret at the time, during the talks. If Bellamy had accepted Celtic's offer and signed, would that have made the talks any less of a secret?
37

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:36:59
76

I would not have ever gone near Bellamy, the man is a cancer to most sides he has played with.
38

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:39:59
78

I can see you are proud of yourself.
39

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:41:33
#82 Daillyman - Cannot disagree with that assessment. I am glad he didn't sign to be honest.
40

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:41:34
83

Quincey can sort out Listeria

You need Perry Mason.
41

Listeria,

Russia 25/09/2008 03:41:36
84,

Play to your strengths
42

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 03:42:36
Anyway, I have no more to say on the Record, for now.

Good luck Hearts and here's hoping you come through this.
43

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:43:48
Pundit came on Culley has got his head so far up WGS rectum he can kiss his tonsils.
44

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:45:00
"come on" in post 90
45

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:47:39
93

Just don't catch listeria.
46

Daillyman,

25/09/2008 03:52:39
95 bto

Read post 78 that sums up this bad disease and the poster using it on this thread.

Catch you later tonight, golf at 11.30 then the RFC club for a few cold ones.
47

DT is a JT,

25/09/2008 04:09:11
well well well the Bluenose Glory Hunter is in full swing this morning, anyway I would rather be a smug Jambo than a Bigoted Thug have you forgot already your weagie pals behaviour in Manchester now why dont you go and gloat on another thread because you are becoming very (Thrushy) irritating
48

Harlem Tam,

25/09/2008 05:00:17
Another dire performance from the Gers last night.

It's a good job there are no replays in the League Cup, otherwise Rangers would be scrabbling around begging for an extenstion to the season.

Only one fluke result at Parkhead for the Gers to get excited about, while the Celts start moving up a gear or two and begin to utilise their great squad to the full.

4 in a row coming your way.
49

TangerineDreamer,

OF free zone 25/09/2008 05:34:56
I have no attachment to Hearts other than they are not the OF, but reading the article you have to think it's all going to end in tears.

If success was as simple as building a bigger stadium so more peple come so more income so better players so more success etc then why did Cowdenbeath not do this many years ago?? Build a 10,000 seat stadium and before you know it you're in the premier league. The flaw in the logic is that there are only so many people with the money / interest/ attachment to a club to put the backside on a seat on a Saturday afternoon, Sunday lunchtime or whenever.

What is a realistic home support for a successful (top 3) Hearts side at home, other than OF games? 20,000? So even if they are successful (top 3) and if they get 20,000 and if they can buy a few better players (that is the order in which it would happen), they are still not going to overtake the OF (they would not let it happen)or be big players in Europe.

How does that add up to spending 50m on a new stand (for how much extra ground capacity?)with interest costs etc? And to argue the case based on a run of 4 or 5 good results is nonsense.

The reality is that all clubs other than OF should see success as 3rd in the league, an occassional win against the OF, a few games in Europe, a Scottish cup final, and to attempt that without taking major financial risks.
50

CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 25/09/2008 06:11:45
TangerineDreamer, HI would or could you do me s favor and come on these threads more often? You Sir or Mam are one of the few who tell it like it is and we need more like you. Well done!

Harlem Tam, What in the hell has gotten into you trying to debate with that sad wee to$$er punney, I hope now that you learend a lesson.

Can you see the usual cracks appearing in the rearangers, dear me they had to go into overtime today, how in the hell did they get 4 past us is a mystery. never mind there's always next time, and to think I had them down for a 3-1 win.

Goodnight and 4 In a row coming your way!
51

Eggert,

Edinburgh 25/09/2008 06:36:32
Pundit

Why are you such a fool. As a Jambo I would hate to see Hibs go out of business. Believe me it would not be a good thing for Hibs either if we went down the tubes.

When hibs went down the season was so dull. Rangers and Celtic games are not something I generally look forward too so all that was left was the other SPL dross to play. It was rubbish. Meanwhile Hibs were losing to Stranraer.

Grow up a bit. Rivalry is rivalry but wishing another club to go under is pathetic.
52

Louis Catorze,

25/09/2008 07:28:47
"When you see sporting palaces going up overnight in China and we are talking about one stand, well it's not something I want to talk about at this moment"

I think we'll stick with our labour laws and consturction techniques thanks.
53

Addie,

from the heart 25/09/2008 07:35:13
Dear Puntit and BTO,

Noone on here likes you and noone on here likes your club. Im afraid noone on here even respects your posts and your poor attempts at banter are as funny as a group of Rankers fans on a night out in Manchester.

But I realise this is not entirely your own faults as you were both clearly neglected by society and feel compelled to post 24/7 on the Scotsman about my club. Therefore I have attached a link for the both of you to help you 'get out more' and I hope this helps.

www.hunksintheirtrunks.com
www.desperateforagirlfriend.com
www.evenafriendwilldo.co.uk
www.mysisterismywife.com
www.larkhallbanjoplayers.co.uk

Yours,

Dr Addie




54

Addie,

25/09/2008 07:37:45
#112 Touch a nerve there did I?

Didnt realise that spelling was so mandatory on here.

Admit it though, you do need a girlfriend dont you?
55

Addie,

25/09/2008 07:46:47
There was no toilet humour used there BLT.

So why did you leave your job in SFA? Did they replace you with Aggie the cleaner?
56

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 25/09/2008 07:52:18
Another poor article by the "lets have another dig at Hearts" journalists (and I use that term loosely) at the Scotsman/EN. I suppose it gives the moronic posters on here (Puntit/BTO)something to do instead of just licking windows.
57

Bigwull,

edinburgh 25/09/2008 07:53:48
WHY DONT YOU WEEGIES AND HOBOS F' OFF BACK TO YOUR COUNCIL FLATS AND PREPARE TO SIGN ON
58

Addie,

25/09/2008 07:57:47
#116 Freelance what? Skivvie?

Just cos you went busking around London when you were skint dont make you a musician...

...and just cos you'd collect Ally's BLT from Tescos dont make you a Sportsman either...

...International Finance - sorry but your comments on Hearts' financial predicaments clearly show you are out of your depth on that matter...

You take yourself far too seriously BLT. You need to loosen up a wee bit.

Why not get away from the computer and find yourself a new hobby?
59

Addie,

25/09/2008 08:00:35
#119 Carlsberg dont do posts, but if they did it would be this one....

SPOT ON!
60

Jenks,

25/09/2008 08:00:57
Just a total load of guff written by a hobo.

Bathgate is a sausageboy!
61

Addie,

25/09/2008 08:01:42
blt is Bathgate in disguise!!!!!!!
62

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 25/09/2008 08:09:01
Bring Them On:- Can you make your posts shorter too? In fact just leave them blank.
63

Addie,

25/09/2008 08:09:30
#127 Tumbleweed.....

Another 'quality' post by Boring Tw@t Overall....
64

Gorgie's Finest,

25/09/2008 08:18:24
Morning guys picked up this "Exclusive" from the sun online this morning

"HEARTS supremo Vladimir Romanov has knocked back a megabucks bid to buy the club.

SunSport can reveal a group of foreign businessmen wanted to snap up his 82 per cent stake in the Jambos.

But despite the Tynecastle side toiling with crushing debts of £36MILLION, tycoon Romanov says he has NO INTENTION of selling up.

News of the approach comes as players and staff await overdue wages which Vlad claims will finally be paid on Friday.

Lithuanian FA chief Liutauras Varanavicius is a trusted Romanov ally and he revealed: “There were people there but they were not serious in my eyes.

“It’s true they wanted to buy out the club — but they didn’t know how they were going to.

“Look, everything is for sale if the price is right. You cannot say 100 per cent that it would not happen in the future.

“But I don’t expect Vladimir to sell Hearts, I expect him to EXPAND his activities in football instead.

“He is the man with the plans for Hearts and he will be the one who carries them out.”

Varanavicius — who also holds a position within Romanov’s UKIO bank hierarchy— blasted suggestions that his pal had lost interest in the Jambos.

He said: “That’s stupid. I spoke with Vladimir this morning and I can assure you he’s not lost any passion for Hearts.

“And I can also say there are no money problems. There were funds due to go in last Friday and they were incorrectly done. But the money WAS there.”

After reading that im now trying to figure out if this supposed approach to buy us was within the last week or two or days, or if this was when the last approach was made some months ago, as the words used in the quotes are the same as they were the last time an interested party wanted to buy Vlad out

"“Look, everything is for sale if the price is right. You cannot say 100 per cent that it would not happen in the future.

“But I don’t expect Vladimir to sell Hearts, I expect h
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Gorgie's Finest,

25/09/2008 08:19:45
“Look, everything is for sale if the price is right. You cannot say 100 per cent that it would not happen in the future.

“But I don’t expect Vladimir to sell Hearts, I expect him to EXPAND his activities in football instead.

“He is the man with the plans for Hearts and he will be the one who carries them out.”

If this is to be believed and has only just happened this is a complete slap in the face to those cretins and low lifes who have been wishing and gloating over our demise. No business going bust would dismiss offers to offload.
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

25/09/2008 08:20:34
Bathgate's article appears to suggest a brand new stadium is not a good thing to aspire to. Despite the obvious benefits for Hearts, the local community and the game as a whole in Scotland. (Incidentally Hibs are also delaying their stand).

Neither does challenging the Old Firm or aiming to get into the CL seem to be something he thinks Hearts should aim for. He obviously thinks that having the OF dominate the league for evermore is the way forward for Scottish football. He is also very short on ideas for how other teams can challenge the OF without spending money. Evidence over many years since the OF pulled away due to the money they get from the CL and their artificially high fanbases suggests this is impossible.

It's the classic Scottish "dinnae get above yersel' now" attitude that sees Hearts fans branded arrogant for wanting their team to better itself. Wake me up when we're in administration. If it happens I'm pleased Hearts had a go. And the club will still be around in some form. The fact people seem to ignore is the Hearts owners will lose a PACKET if Hearts go under. They can't rely on the sale of Tynecastle as its land value must be dropping fast. So it's in their interests to keep Hearts afloat. To the Googlers above, UBIG's shares and financial position is no different to others in the current climate. This crisis affects everyone and every business.

I still maintain trying to challenge for 2nd and 1st by investing was a better option than continuing to challenge for 3rd every season - which Bathgate seems to think is all Hearts should aspire to, judging by his comments.

Bathgate's rehashed, unenlightening article is summed up by this: "Only in season 2005-06, when they won the Scottish Cup and finished second to get into the qualifying stages of the Champions League.." ONLY. That was some achievement for a non-OF team.
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VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 08:27:13
for goodness sake!!! has this so-called story not been put to bed yet? yet another re-hash with the added spice of the stadium plans being thrown in to stir up even more nonsense.

and to top it all off..... a really useful Q & A session to answer all the questions we might have if we were all complete mongs.... or diddles the clown and his retarded mate bore-them-all.

news for the sake of it, not for the necessity of it.

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Stotty,

25/09/2008 08:29:18
Who exactly is this Q&A session with?
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Jambo-ree,

25/09/2008 08:33:16
#131 - It's the sheer misrepresentation that gets me both in the Sun article you quote and in Bathgate's piece. The Sun says "But despite the Tynecastle side toiling with crushing debts of £36MILLION" but of course that was reduced to £24m by the debt for equity swap. £24m is the figure used by Bathgate but this excludes the £10m or so for Gordon and Bednar.

Now I'm not daft enough to think all of the latter will have gone against our debt and while our running expenses have come down recently there would still be high running expenses in the earlier part of the financial year. However the point is that our debt is nowhere near the £36m spouted by the Sun and hopefully less that the £24 quoted by Bathgate.

I'd like to think we are now back pretty much to where we were under the pieman - still a big debt but nothing like the sensationalist Sun would have us believe, and the trouble is that too many are only too willing to believe it.
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Gorgie's Finest,

25/09/2008 08:34:29
#134

The Q&A part of this article is a complete joke and has been used solely for the purpose of dramatising the article, of course mongs like BTO and PunT1T as well as certain hobo fools will fall for it, but quite simply those Bathgate has asked himself the questions and also answered them himself without a single bit of investigation into the whole facts
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Indy Rep Kid...,

25/09/2008 08:34:49
#135

Exactly. More p***-poor journalism from the Hootsman.

There are still plenty of questions to be asked about this episode but the last question that is answered with "there may be trouble ahead" is the stuff of school newsletters.

Thank god I never pay for this trash!!
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Jambo-ree,

25/09/2008 08:36:23
Say what you like - Vlad does know how to steal the headlines!
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Indy Rep Kid...,

25/09/2008 08:41:57
puntitty/BTO

Enjoyed your medley of Rule Britannia, God Save The Queen, No Surrender and the Famine Song last night.

I would personally never tire of firebombing those cvnts, if i'm being honest. A few innocents may get it but that's all part of the peace process, i'm afraid.
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

GB/UK/WORLDWIDE 25/09/2008 08:46:24
The sooner this whole sorry saga is over the better.
Close Hearts down and be done with it.

One team in Edinburgh is about all they should have.

Let's face it, Rangers V Celtic reserves gets a bigger crowd than Hearts V Hibs.

They're a joke.
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johnrebus,

Oxford Bar 25/09/2008 08:46:38


I hope the queen is being kept abreast of the unfolding situation down Gorgie way .

Dear old Vlad really does deserve a knighthood for keeping Scottish football fans in fits of laughter for over three years now .




Tick , tock .
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johnrebus,

Oxford Bar 25/09/2008 08:50:16
#145

At least Hibs and Hearts supporters are football fans .

Not thick , glory hunting bigots like you and your dopey cousins .
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Jambo-ree,

25/09/2008 08:52:33
#145 Thank you for your well balanced comments. What you forget is that the OF need the rest of the Scottish clubs as much as vice versa. Let's face it, you couldn't have a two team league and nobody else would take you. Especially after the disgrace of Manchester.
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taIk o' the toun,

25/09/2008 08:52:44
#131 GF

I'm lead to believe that it's a group of Swedes interested in buying. So that will be one turnip selling to a load of them.
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Gorgie's Finest,

25/09/2008 09:09:50
#144 TommyT1T

Yet again we have libelous allegations from yourself. I wonder why its only when there is a negative you rear your ugly head on here?

As you have been asked many times before in the past please provide Evidence to the following

*Debt of over £36 million and not an asset to account for it
*Unsolicited payments to ghost staff
*Expenses paid to these people for having a good time.
*Lack of transparency in transfer dealings

As you have also been told in the past if you are unable to provide evidence to support these ridiculous and scandelous claims then move on and stop making a nob end of yourself by posting them.

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VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 09:16:55
JPRESS,

can you see the general consensus of opinion from the regular hearts supporting members here regarding the ongoing circus which has been played out over this not-so-sensational story?

the continued saga which is being conducted with regurgitated news isn't even the sort of thing you expect from the gutter red-tops, all they tend to do is to print complete lies and misinformation and then move on to the next set of lies and misinformation.

continuing to perpetrate a percieved crisis when there is none in reality isn't becoming of a serious publication, all it serves to achieve is to give a platform to morons and trouble makers who have no interest in the truth behind the headlines.

if the intention is to report about scandalous behaviour within scottish football, may i suggest a long, drawn out saga regarding the behaviour of old firm supporters and the prehistoric songs they pollute our football grounds with?

no that would be silly of course, just like the guttersnipes of the red-tops and the impotent sfa, that's just not on the agenda.... is it?

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DubIinHibs,

25/09/2008 09:20:35
132 Gorgie's Finest,25/09/2008 08:19:45


Funny how you slate the sun as a rag when it suits......who is the boy viricose veins???

is he a banker....no

does he have anything to do with hearts......no

Is he reponsible for paying hearts players.......no

is he as it states a vury close pursonal frind of Vlads........Yes

Well thats allright then, if some no mark from lithuania says hearts wont go bust, then they wont!!!

Kind of the same theory as listening to PUNTWAT saying they will then.....

and for the record i'm not saying they will (well nor before the derby)

But this is another example of the crazy train circliong gorgie just now!!
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DubIinHibs,

25/09/2008 09:24:18
141

lovin your work......and i thought that the anti weegie sentiments could not get any worse than from me too......

when the revolution starts......
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Gorgie's Finest,

25/09/2008 09:27:02
#154 DH

I suggest you actually read my post again and do try hard to concentrate. Ill give you some help

"After reading that im now trying to figure out if this supposed approach to buy us was within the last week or two or days, or if this was when the last approach was made some months ago, as the words used in the quotes are the same as they were the last time an interested party wanted to buy Vlad out"

"If this is to be believed...."

Now without making a complete tool of yourself this early as you have a whole day ahead of you to do that, where am i backing up or defending the sun? Have i said i Believe them? In fact Iam questioning their story in my first paragraph, ok so i havent called them a gutter rag YET like i didnt call the Dailr Rioter into question over yesterdays despicable reporting until their article was rubbished by Hearts Captain.

I know it's early for you DH try having some coffee first in the morning before you come on here and try and have a pop at people, you might get something right.

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Johnny Jambo,

25/09/2008 09:27:55
I don't believe that this story is still rolling along.
The players and staff will be paid and thats the end of it.
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Gorgie's Finest,

25/09/2008 09:30:44
#158 JJ

As long as we have the inbred knuckledragging morons like BTO and diddles the clown it will roll on, add into that mic the usual splattering of ill informed half witted hobo retards and it could play out for a very long time
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huggs,

25/09/2008 09:34:26
Is this not great
Every paper out to cruxify Romanov come to expect it from the weegie rags but its a bit much when the EEN are at it also
Hope the lads use it all as inspiration
So many people want Hearts to fall on there face its unreal
Where is the Hibs new stand BTW

HHGH
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Darwin's Shoe,

25/09/2008 09:35:31
#78 Listeria is a bacterium not a virus
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

25/09/2008 09:38:22
Dear The Scotsman

Re: the following quote:

"Q: What is the health of Ukio Bankas in the current economic climate of a global downturn?

A: Its rating has been downgraded from "stable" to "negative" recently, but its trading position remains positive"

I have explained this issue to posters on this board, who - through no fault of their own - misunderstand the difference between a "rating" and an "outlook".
I can forgive them, they are not a national newspaper, but such a blatant error is unforgiveable in a proper paper. The Ukio Bankas rating is unchanged, the outlook - along with quite a number of banks recently - has been downgraded. It would also have been useful to point out which rating agency you are talking about (it's Standard & Poor's by the way).
Further, a comment that Ukio Bankas' strength does not have a direct impact on Heart of Midlothian Football Club would have been helpful.
Letting a sports journalist comment on financial matters is foolish beyond belief. I suggest you run such comments past your business desk in future. Or just check with me - you have my email address.
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Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 25/09/2008 09:42:15
Note to Scotsman - this is the worst piece of journalism I have witnessed from your paper - this paper is fast becoming a joke. There should be a withdrawal or apology for this one sided, ill-informed disgrace of an article.
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VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 09:43:25
#162 bore them (official!!!), it must really make you feel special and important that you pretend to 'be in the know' about something which you're pretending to keep from us.

in later life, if you ever become a sentient being, you may look back over your life and realise just how pathetic you were.

if you never become sentient, you'll just continue to be utterly pathetic.

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VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 09:46:01
#165 bore them,

"away you go and dinnae bore us".

make me another coffee would you miss perkins? this one has leapt from my mouth.

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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

25/09/2008 09:46:17
#165 I apologise Mr On. But some people round here got very het up about Ukio Bankas' "rating downgrade" when, of course, it was nothing of the sort.
As you find my comment boring I assume you knew that already, so that's fine - well done you. It just upsets me when I see such woefully inaccurate comment in a national newspaper.
Not everyone is capable of forming their own opinions look you or I - some people believe everything they read. So it's up to those who write it to make sure the facts are correct.
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Darwin's Shoe,

25/09/2008 09:47:06
#146 john rebus was a hearts fan, if you could read you would know this.

Only this paper could have a Q and A session with itself...total tripe
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

25/09/2008 09:47:14
"like you or I" - but you knew that too!
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Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 25/09/2008 09:48:44
#133 - could not agree more.

The media in this country should hang their heads in shame. We will remain a european backwater because of their attempts to stifle anyone wishing to grow and better themselves.

The article actually suggests companies should not attempt to grow during an economic downturn.

I too applaud a club who wishes to break the monotony of scottish football which has been spiralling downward for years. Better to have tried and failed than to sit with your finger up you're hole going nowhere!
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Gorgie's Finest,

25/09/2008 09:53:39
#171 BTO

I found his comments worthwhile and relevent to the topic, which is far more than can be said about your comments most of the time.

On the other hand it is easy to start with the petty childish retorts of "away ye go, and dinny bore us" when you dont understand something or don't have the same level of intellect to argue back
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

25/09/2008 09:57:56
#171 I'll keep it short Mr On. And words of one syllable.

I did not read all your posts from yesterday - I do not have time.
You said at post 4 that the Q & A was "realistic".

If I bore you. Please do not read my posts. I am not here just to entertain you.
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Roscoe P Coltrane,

25/09/2008 10:01:41
177 - Liam. Ignore thepedant and bringthemoff, don't even respond. It's a waste of time arguing with somebody who'se only response to an argument they don't like is essentially "yah, boo, sucks, I'm not listening, la la la". I mean, standing up for the journalistic quality of the Daily Ranger......

A bigger pair of trolls I've not seen since I last read my nephew "where the wild things are".
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VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 10:02:06
bore to oblivion, what an odious little whelp you are. not content with being an ignorant trumpet, now you're trying to belittle people who patently have more knowledge in their fingernail than you have in your tiny mind.

sad sad sad sad sad sad sad man.

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Who?,

25/09/2008 10:05:28
#172- very good comment.

This is the biggest non story for month. We have a very poor sports journo lecturing on ecconomics.

What next barry ferguson giving us his overview on the works of shakesphere?
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Gorgie's Finest,

25/09/2008 10:07:43
#183

I believe it has been discussed for days now.

Discuss the questions you have been asked not only today but for months now...start providing your evidence..put up or shut up
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VictorianGorgie,

25/09/2008 10:09:09
#184 who, well this is certainly not the start of any winter of discontent, despite what BTO says, he's just a nasty wee richard III.

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Roscoe P Coltrane,

25/09/2008 10:09:24
#184 - very nice work there! Although it does conjure up a frankly disturbing image of BF thinking VERY hard......
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Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 25/09/2008 10:14:03
173 BTO

No thats not the only 2 options, there is a 3rd which sections of this media seem either to want stifle or have found it sells papers to taint it - that option is to try and achieve a degree of success. Another option could be to try, find the conditions are not hospitable and change business model for interim period.

Thats all different running your business with no interest in challenging and bettering yourself. Asked yourself which way SPL attendences have been going the last few decades? Boredumn with a league that is dominated and protected with no challenge or competition.

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Bigwull,

edinburgh 25/09/2008 10:14:29
145 WE DO AND ITS CALLED HEART OF MIDLOTHIAN. HOW MANY MILLIONS TO BEAT PARTICK THISTLE IN EXTRA TIME, HOLD YOUR HEAD IN SHAME.
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Bigwull,

edinburgh 25/09/2008 10:17:13
189 EXACTLY HMFC ARE THE ONLY TEAM THAT EVER MAKES AN EFFORT TO DO THIS EVERY 10 YEARS OR SO BUT THE POWERS THAT BE AND THE GFA/OLD FIRM JOIN FORCES TO ENSURE IT DOESN'T LAST, BOOT THE BIGOT BROTHERS OUT.
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Who?,

25/09/2008 10:27:24
#186- Compared to last season i'm absolutly delighted. A manager who has a reasonable degree of automony and who has a good relationship with the owner, director of football and Cambell Ogilvie (MD i think).

The team are picking up points and the playes can only say positive things about their working environment and their collegues. Players who had attitude problems are now working with vigour and commitment while others are working elsewhere with the knowledge that if they return with the correct attitude then the door will still be open.

My only moan would be that i would like to see a more expansive game plan with 2 up front but the results are coming and the performances improving so i'll settle for 1-0 wins ever week over 3-3 draws or 3-2 defeats.

To be honest if they only thing that the gutter press and a bunch of sad act pseudo fans can slate hearts for is a payroll error which has been rectified then even bette- it shows progress is being made and lessons are being learned.
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LyonHearts,

le teil 25/09/2008 10:28:27
#145 So by your reckoning only teams with large crowds should be allowed to play? So where does that leave every other club outside the OF? Maybe you'd be happier if you joined the EPL - we certainly would!

It would be funny to see you fighting relegation every season against the likes of Bolton, Wigan, Stoke etc...


MON THE HEARTS
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Pattie O'Dores,

In The Conservatory 25/09/2008 10:29:17
Rangers taken into extra time in a cup tie again against an allegedly inferior side. Memories of last season when Rangers got 'too tired' at the end which cost them the 'quadruple'. Walter should apply for an extension to the season now to avoid the disappointment of last time.
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Giuseppe Tortolano,

25/09/2008 10:29:47
Jeez this is getting a bit boring now.

There was a cash flow problem, it is going to be rectified tomorrow. The money for the backroom staff should have been found as a priority when it was obvious there was a problem, which they knew last friday at the very latest but one would think it was quite some time before that, but I'm sure the players were OK although Gregg's takings must be down.

I think it has been handled very poorly but this has just been grist to the mill for the Scum and Rioter - they'll print whatever they want to try and flog their rags.

It HAS been newsworthy though my Jambo friends and I think some of you are being a little precious about the the whole thing - Bathgate's articles, while not saying anything new, don't seem biased to me and you have to remember they'll be a lot of people reading them who don't follow football as closely as us and so they have to be pitched at someone who is not abreast of the situation and background.

Let's just hope the funds clesr tomorrow, eh?
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LyonHearts,

le teil 25/09/2008 10:40:31
#196 re; Let's just hope the funds clesr tomorrow, eh?

Yeah I hope so too, because this story is - as your rightly sataed " " Soooo BORING" now!

WE Hearts fans just want to talk about the team and how's it's doing! But it seems that fans of every other tema in Scotland have nothing better to do than circle like vultures whenever there's an " imaginary" problem at Tynecastle!

Rangers fans might be a little more concerned that the needed extra-time to beat Partick for instance!

MON THE HEARTS
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Who?,

25/09/2008 10:41:45
#187 Roscoe P Coltrane- Maybe a bit harsh on poor old Bazza "basketball" Ferguson.

As well as improving his elocution by taking lessons he can also tie both shoe laces without help and he can read without having to say the word out loud.

All in all a credit to the glasweigan education system!
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Indigo Nightlight,

25/09/2008 10:55:58
#192

Except you're not 'repeating the facts'. You're making most of them up. The debt does not currently stand at £36m. There are no recorded 'ghost' payments. Expenses paid to who? What lack of Transparency in transfer dealings? Would that be the kind of transparency Celtic showed when signing Mizuno and Du Wei?

The facts are Hearts are in a bad way financially, and this situation is a mess. There is no need for trolling idiots like yourself to come on and embellish them to make the situation appear worse or to make yourdelf look knowledgable when you have no insight whatsoever.
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Indigo Nightlight,

25/09/2008 11:02:23
#196

Don't disagree with it being newsworthy, of course it is, but the piece by Bathgate is a complete joke. the Q & A section must have been knocked up in about 40 seconds and ends by answering a hypothetical question with a hypothetical answer!

The one outstanding issue I believe should be addressed is what the 'Technicality' was. Lazy journalists aren't going to get anywhere on that one though.
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Silence of the Yams,

25/09/2008 11:07:49
As the article says, Swinceastle clock is ticking, Yams.



TICK TOCK!!!
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Noods,

25/09/2008 11:31:58
#192 tommytommy
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If you put your axe down turn the newspaper around the correct way and get your care worker to read the content of the "WEEKS SPECULATION" about Hearts financial position then you might begin to appreciate that I am not making this up.
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I'm drawing your attention to the word speculation, can you see where this is going, tommy?

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I am merely repeating the "FACTS" as placed in the public domain.

Now before you hit the keys do something that you find extremely difficult to do.

"THINK".
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So SPECULATION turns into FACTS in one sentence. I suggest you take your own advice you slavering fool and make your mind up, which is it, speculation or fact?

Moron.
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LyonHearts,

le teil 25/09/2008 11:35:05
"Tynecastle clock ticking ahead of wages D-day"

This whole saga is about as interesting as listening to a clock ticking right enough!

MON THE HEARTS
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LyonHearts,

le teil 25/09/2008 11:38:41
#202 presumably your " tick tock" is a references to some sort of time bomb you predict is going to go off at Tynecastle at some stage?

Well I've been on these boards for several years now and so hasd the whole " tick tock" brigade! It must be one hell of a long fuse as this meltdown you're all predicting is taking a long time to come!

I can't wait till this non-crisis is over and then maybe you can stick you " tick tock" where it belongs!

MON THE HEARTS
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Jambo-ree,

25/09/2008 11:43:30
#202 Yeah yeah yeah. Heard it all before. We were going bust before Christmas, in January or February or by the end of the season and guess what? We're still here and waiting for you.

Interesting a rabid Hibee like yourself agrees with the words used by Bathgate while another (#196) tries to convince us the article is not biased!
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Jim Baxter,

Alicante 25/09/2008 12:08:41
203 I would second your comments,I was thinking thepundit was employed by the paper but he writes so much shxxx that no Editor would employ him. Easy to see why he is a Gers fan he is brainless and must have a sad life the time he spend on this forum.
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Chas Niceass,

25/09/2008 12:09:40
This whole thing beggars belief. How disappointing when the wages are all paid tomorrow then.
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marooned in east london,

london 25/09/2008 12:41:39
#12
bizarrely after taking sections of the incredible (literally) 'google search' by Chips you have quoted and transcribing them directly into Google the only result I get is http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Balkan+Investment+Fund+(managed+by+UBIG-owned+Balkan+Investment+Bank)+has+seen+its+value+halved+in+a+month.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.google:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
which happens to be YOUR quote on THIS page..
That wouldn't really stand up to much scrutiny, it's a bit like having yourself as an alibi..
Also, am I they only one that thinks this piece of journalism reads like a trashy tabloid blog?
The Q and A at the end were loaded questions in the extreme and could have been written by the likes of 'the pundit' or 'bring them on' (who are still obsessed with hearts it would seem - imagine your life got to the stage that you became obsessed with a team you didn't support to the point where you spent hours and hours hunched over a computer commenting on articles about them!! oh dear) - and as for the clock reference in the title!!
all that was missing was, "tick tock girfuy!"
pathetic.
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marooned in east london,

london 25/09/2008 12:46:12
#202
silence, are you and bathgate working together??
did he lay that one up for you to slam dunk home??
spooky - great minds eh!
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marooned in east london,

london 25/09/2008 12:59:40
#14 and 15
'we'
awww that's really cute..
the not altogether uncommon event of two socially challenged balding loners bonding over an internet forum.
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Indigo Nightlight,

25/09/2008 13:13:59
#213

'Family, friends and cohorts on the payroll- fact.' Evidence? any? or fact cause you say it?

Staff no paid, is, currently, fact. well done. No-one disputed that one though.

Debt has no assets against it is not Fact, it is a lie. unless the ground and surrounding land are intangibles which they are not.

What needs explained about the Bednar deal?

'The conflict of interests looks like Hearts have been taken to the cleaners by the Romanov group.Thats how it appears to me.Fact too.' None of that makes any sense, but once more, saying something does not make it fact, it makes it supposition. Or in your case, garbage.

Yes, the media are making up a lot of speculation, until they, like you provide any actual evidence of impropriety or any actual facts.



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LyonHearts,

le teil 25/09/2008 13:35:21
#214 What needs explained about the Bednar deal?

Nothing! He went on loan to WBA are two and a half injury plagued seasons with Hearts - he did well and they signed him for £2.5m. Good bit of business!

How many players leave other clubs every season and nobody says a word about them?

MON THE HEARTS!
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TangerineDreamer,

OF free zone 25/09/2008 15:48:48
If there is a simple explanation for the wages not being paid then what is that simple explanation.

For the Hearts fans (or other non OF) who think they can become No 1 or 2 in Scotland, how would you rate the chances of a mid level club in England breaking into the big 4?
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SouthSideHibs,

25/09/2008 17:01:17
Total non-story.

Put head back in sand.

Await further instructions.
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FTH22inarow,

25/09/2008 20:27:42
217 we did, for a season.

 

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